tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1780806945960886534.post8848659602101811930..comments2024-03-28T05:47:54.177+00:00Comments on Philosophical Disquisitions: Morriston on God and the Ontological Foundation of Morality (Part One)John Danaherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06761686258507859309noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1780806945960886534.post-67424086661374890532022-06-15T21:01:57.030+01:002022-06-15T21:01:57.030+01:00So just to be clear, it is pure assertion that God...So just to be clear, it is pure assertion that God can NOT NOT exist and that God can NOT be different than he is? It's purely definitional. I think that's where the whole argument from morality fails to win more converts. We recognize that as pure assertion and it makes the whole idea vulnerable to question....how do we KNOW God even thinks morally let along thinks RIGHTLY about morals? <br /><br />And I think you do not fully appreciate the Euthyphro dilemma. It is in the form of two simple questions...they talk of the two horns of the dilemma, but the problem is much deeper. If it was as simple as many seem to make it it would make Socrates a simple minded man in deed. It gets at how can we know God thinks morally at all and how we can knw that what he thinks is moral is really right in any sense other than that he thought it or based on a faith assertion? We have no means to assess God's morality at all and if all our moral thinking was built by God and all the things we consider when thinking morally are things God created or implanted in our thinking, how could we even know our thinking is even reliable when evaluating God's morality/mandates? And it's not just a theoretical problem...it's practical. Even if IN THEORY we can have faith God is moral and his morals are right, but how do we actually assess any given moral thought we have or someone else says they have without relying on our...per the theist...subject ability to think about moral things? <br /><br />The most interesting dilemma for the theist who wants to say God is good and have that be a meaningful statement is they have to have an independent means to assess God and his mandates or they can't KNOW they are making a truth statement. So I think theists belie their own assumption and they actually think...at least they act like... they have an independent and reliable way to think morally when they look at God himself or a given God mandate and say, 'yes, that's right....that's a good thing to do.' I think they think that's MORE than just buying into the Divine Command Theory or taking it on faith. They really think they're right.Rizdekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15734917498738483873noreply@blogger.com