In this episode I talk to Jacob Turner. Jacob is a barrister and author. We chat about his new book, Robot Rules: Regulating Artificial Intelligence (Palgrave Macmillan, 2018), which discusses how to address legal responsibility, rights and ethics for AI.
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- 0:00 - Introduction
- 1:33 - Why did Jacob write Robot Rules?
- 2:47 - Do we need special legal rules for AI?
- 6:34 - The responsibility 'gap' problem
- 11:50 - Private law vs criminal law: why it's important to remember the distinction
- 14:08 - Is is easy to plug the responsibility gap in private law?
- 23:07 - Do we need to think about the criminal law responsibility gap?
- 26:14 - Is it absurd to hold AI criminally responsible?
- 30:24 - The problem with holding proximate humans responsible
- 36:40 - The positive side of responsibility: lessons from the Monkey selfie case
- 41:50 - What is legal personhood and what would it mean to grant it to an AI?
- 48:57 - Pragmatic reasons for granting an AI legal personhood
- 51:48 - Is this a slippery slope?
- 56:00 - Explainability and AI: Why is this important?
- 1:02:38 - Is there are right to explanation under EU law?
- 1:06:16 - Is explainability something that requires a technical solution not a legal solution?
- 1:08:32 - The danger of fetishising explainability
- "Robots, Law and the Retribution Gap" by John Danaher
- Algorithmic Entities by Lynn LoPucki (discussing Shawn Bayern's argument)